Robert Green once told me that there's a dividing line between success and failure the ability to sit with board him great creative work he said is the product of a very tedious process hours and hours of thinking researching and daydreaming. I was so nervous because I'm just such a huge fan of Roberts and the idea of me being in a car with him for 40 minutes was just I was sweating and then immediately it just like went away He just like put you at ease he's so gentle and the conversation flowed from the time he got in the car to the time we got to Bastrop.
Billy Oppenheimer is a writer. He is also the research assistant for Ryan Holiday.
In this conversation, we spoke about the future of AI and writing, playing the long game, why everything is a remix, what he learned driving Robert Greene from the airport, and why the work is the win.