
37. Spies, with Ben MacIntyre
The Rest Is History
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Threads of Support and Espionage
In this chapter, the hosts reflect on a Swedish clothing brand known for its sustainable practices while sharing personal stories about the importance of support systems in mental well-being. The conversation then ventures into the complex world of espionage, examining the historical ties between ideology, national rivalries, and the personal motivations of spies.
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