The first incarnation of that was the educational exhibition for dogs in 96 are made in Bucharest where it was like a sort of a room just strewn with rubbish well but amongst it I'd made out of the rubbish 40 different tableau and objects about while we're human and they're dogs. The material is as interesting as a tableau and in a way when you look at the assets strippers that's what that is It constantly becomes monumental sculpture becomes like something from the lower halls of the British Museum but then at certain moments it just becomes parts of stuff the matter it's made from. "I don't really care if people don't think it's all you know I just quite enjoy

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