Bernardo Kastrup and John Vervaeke [Round 1] Theolocution on Consciousness, Idealism, and Naturalism
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In this round‑1 dialogue, philosopher Bernardo Kastrup defends metaphysical idealism while cognitive scientist John Vervaeke explores the meaning crisis and a third‑wave approach to mindfulness. They probe the nature of consciousness, the relationship between mind and matter, and the limits of naturalistic explanations.
- 0:00:00 - Introduction
- 0:08:50 - Green Room
- 0:09:43 - Context Exposition
- 0:10:33 - Intros
- 0:12:53 - Vervaeke Deep Continuity Rationalist
- 0:16:18 - BK Analytic Idealist
- 0:19:14 - Emergent Exploration
- 0:22:33 - Plausibility Construct
- 0:26:33 - Psychosocial Plausibility
- 0:29:12 - Science and Consciousness
- 0:30:03 - Culturally Manufactured Emergence
- 0:33:30 - Normative Pragmatism
- 0:34:56 - Disciplined Plausibility
- 0:36:02 - Scotus and Ockham
- 0:38:44 - Incoherent Notion of Being
- 0:40:48 - Relativity and Alien Abduction
- 0:47:18 - Individuating Consciousness
- 0:51:33 - Standard Hume Empiricism
- 0:52:22 - Elegance vs Realism
- 0:53:40 - Nominal vs Ontic Partitioning
- 0:58:28 - Questioning the Experiencer
- 1:01:18 - Meta‑conscious Reflective Attention
- 1:03:03 - Hume's Straw Man
- 1:04:16 - Self and Meta‑consciousness
- 1:06:33 - Dissociative Folded Reflection
- 1:08:08 - What is the Self
- 1:09:33 - Therapy Timeout
- 1:15:11 - Solving the Meaning Crisis
- 1:17:33 - Unbalanced Analytic Rationality
- 1:19:17 - Idolatry of Nerds
- 1:26:24 - Fluid Compensation for Physicalist Facade
- 1:28:42 - Wrong Images of the World
- 1:32:27 - Flat Ontologies and Depth Dimension
- 1:34:21 - Obviousness of Experience
- 1:36:54 - Normative Longing for Transcendental Noumenal
- 1:40:00 - Meaning and Ontology
- 1:44:40 - Meta‑meaning Worldview
- 1:51:05 - Defining Existence
- 1:56:44 - Drinking from Fount of Intelligibility
- 1:58:29 - Behind the Scenes
- 2:01:33 - Where Do You Disagree Most?
- 2:04:33 - Real Field Harmonics
- 2:06:11 - Grounding Monism & Spinoza Modes
- 2:15:01 - Observation Beyond Dissociation
- 2:16:16 - Space/Time Framework of Language
- 2:18:02 - New Age Disavowal
- 2:19:13 - Difference In Kind
- 2:24:20 - Emergence Threshold
- 2:26:37 - Inducing Dissociation in Universal Mind
- 2:30:33 - Meta‑consciousness Reportability
- 2:34:40 - Jung and Meta‑consciousness
- 2:38:00 - Metacognition and Dissociation
- 2:43:22 - Beyond Own Dissociation Boundary
- 2:45:55 - Mental Dissociative Character
SPONSORS:
- Patreon: Support the show at https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal
- PayPal: Donate via https://bit.ly/2EOR0M4
- Twitter: Follow https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt
- iTunes: Listen on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802
- Pandora: Stream on Pandora https://pdora.co/33b9lfP
- Spotify: Stream on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e
- Discord: Join with code dmGgQ2dRzS
- Reddit: Community at https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything
RESOURCES:
- YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWcTmeAs44I
- Curt's interview with JV alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p8o3-7mvQc
- Curt's interview with BK alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB21FAXCDE
- Patreon for conversations on Theories of Everything, Consciousness, Free Will, and God: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal
- Help support conversations like this via PayPal: https://bit.ly/2EOR0M4
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt
- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802
- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e
- Discord Invite Code (as of Mar 04 2021): dmGgQ2dRzS
- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything
- JV's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke
- JV's "Meaning Crisis" series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54l8_ewcOlY&list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ
- BK's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeDZCa3VrRQvzBlVR-oVVmA
- 0:00:00 - Introduction
- 0:08:50 - Green Room
- 0:09:43 - Context Exposition
- 0:10:33 - Intros
- 0:12:53 - Vervaeke Deep Continuity Rationalist
- 0:16:18 - BK Analytic Idealist
- 0:19:14 - Emergent Exploration
- 0:22:33 - Plausibility Construct
- 0:26:33 - Psychosocial Plausibility
- 0:29:12 - Science and Consciousness
- 0:30:03 - Culturally Manufactured Emergence
- 0:33:30 - Normative Pragmatism
- 0:34:56 - Disciplined Plausibility
- 0:36:02 - Scotus and Ockham
- 0:38:44 - Incoherent Notion of Being
- 0:40:48 - Relativity and Alien Abduction
- 0:47:18 - Individuating Consciousness
- 0:51:33 - Standard Hume Empiricism
- 0:52:22 - Elegance vs Realism
- 0:53:40 - Nominal vs Ontic Partitioning
- 0:58:28 - Questioning the Experiencer
- 1:01:18 - Meta‑conscious Reflective Attention
- 1:03:03 - Hume's Straw Man
- 1:04:16 - Self and Meta‑consciousness
- 1:06:33 - Dissociative Folded Reflection
- 1:08:08 - What is the Self
- 1:09:33 - Therapy Timeout
- 1:15:11 - Solving the Meaning Crisis
- 1:17:33 - Unbalanced Analytic Rationality
- 1:19:17 - Idolatry of Nerds
- 1:26:24 - Fluid Compensation for Physicalist Facade
- 1:28:42 - Wrong Images of the World
- 1:32:27 - Flat Ontologies and Depth Dimension
- 1:34:21 - Obviousness of Experience
- 1:36:54 - Normative Longing for Transcendental Noumenal
- 1:40:00 - Meaning and Ontology
- 1:44:40 - Meta‑meaning Worldview
- 1:51:05 - Defining Existence
- 1:56:44 - Drinking from Fount of Intelligibility
- 1:58:29 - Behind the Scenes
- 2:01:33 - Where Do You Disagree Most?
- 2:04:33 - Real Field Harmonics
- 2:06:11 - Grounding Monism & Spinoza Modes
- 2:15:01 - Observation Beyond Dissociation
- 2:16:16 - Space/Time Framework of Language
- 2:18:02 - New Age Disavowal
- 2:19:13 - Difference In Kind
- 2:24:20 - Emergence Threshold
- 2:26:37 - Inducing Dissociation in Universal Mind
- 2:30:33 - Meta‑consciousness Reportability
- 2:34:40 - Jung and Meta‑consciousness
- 2:38:00 - Metacognition and Dissociation
- 2:43:22 - Beyond Own Dissociation Boundary
- 2:45:55 - Mental Dissociative Character
SPONSORS:
- Patreon: Support the show at https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal
- PayPal: Donate via https://bit.ly/2EOR0M4
- Twitter: Follow https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt
- iTunes: Listen on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802
- Pandora: Stream on Pandora https://pdora.co/33b9lfP
- Spotify: Stream on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e
- Discord: Join with code dmGgQ2dRzS
- Reddit: Community at https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything
RESOURCES:
- YouTube link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWcTmeAs44I
- Curt's interview with JV alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p8o3-7mvQc
- Curt's interview with BK alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB21FAXCDE
- Patreon for conversations on Theories of Everything, Consciousness, Free Will, and God: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal
- Help support conversations like this via PayPal: https://bit.ly/2EOR0M4
- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt
- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802
- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e
- Discord Invite Code (as of Mar 04 2021): dmGgQ2dRzS
- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything
- JV's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke
- JV's "Meaning Crisis" series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54l8_ewcOlY&list=PLND1JCRq8Vuh3f0P5qjrSdb5eC1ZfZwWJ
- BK's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeDZCa3VrRQvzBlVR-oVVmA
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