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E15: Richard Hanania on Vivek Ramaswamy, Affirmative Action, and the Winning Agenda for 2024

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

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The Importance of Ideas in Wokeness

I think people who are interested in ideas tend to think ideas are important. My study into wokeness shows that it's actually often not ideas. It's just sort of bureaucratic initiatives or responding to a certain election, for example. And so then they can go back at time and say this was caused by some philosophy. I just don't see a lot of evidence for that. You know, you'll find somebody who did say something that sort of looks like today because, you know, people say all kinds of things,. But it doesn't mean that that person caused it.

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