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The Unmistakable Creative Podcast

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The Importance of Precautionary Optimism in Leadership

"I find I think the ability to apply those kinds of odds, right? What are the odds of making this happen?" he asks. "It's important when it comes to creating things ... there is a sense of cautious optimism," Dali adds. 'No sugar coating' and 'cautious optimism' can be key in leadership, she says.

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