This year really hammered at home particularly because I was in Eureka Park which is one of my favorite places where there's thousands of startups it can be a little overwhelming. Even within some of these tiny little booths focused on let's say energy storage or something else a little EV would pop up a little like some smaller cars some micro mobility. It just felt like there were some huge players there and also a lot of little ones, says Qanerjee. He said he thought for sure we would have seen more consolidation but for whatever reason all these LiDAR companies are doubling down.