The Importance of Hope

Hope is in almost everything. When you're sick and fighting illness, you hope you're going to get better. I keep the forest inside all the time. That's so beautiful. You've had to face up to some really severe problems and challenges, all driven by your passion. For example, helping to abolish testing on chimpanzees in laboratories. And that's something, you know, reading it in the book, you could tell it was a seriously painful experience for you having to walk into such a space and see the beloved chimpanzees being confined and treated in such a way.