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#104 Sorting out this mess with Abby Covert & Andrew Hinton

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The Importance of Admitting the Problem

"If you can't convince your organization that there is a problem, you're going to be banging your head up against a wall," he says. "I see too many young designers and technologists and marketers getting themselves very frustrated running around with pictures of the way they think the world ought to be."

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