How I Set Traditions and Changed Them

"I started before they were, I mean, they were projected. Or there was electricity, right? It was a no." "We had a little hamster on a wheel that spun around and gave us a little bit of a spark and it was enough to see by" He says he's faced challenges from people who wanted to change the traditions at his old church. The pastor has been in ministry for more than 30 years but is just now getting back into full-time work.