Women are creative, productive and most of the production when you measure it in terms of time spent. In the world is women's work. It's just that it's not counted as work because just like GDP only counts that which can, you can exchange in the market. So the opportunity in this moment of crisis is stopping the blindness towards the tremendous creativity of the earth. We've to stop trying to be masters and conquerors and engineers like Bacon tried to think we should be, you know, Superman. The nature had to be subjugated and conquered. That's the path that's leading to collapse.

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