Intro

Mark Halperin discusses his breaking news reporting that Mike Waltz is out as NSA, why there were rumblings about his role there even before Signalgate, how Steve Witkoff might be next up for the job, how a recent hit piece against Witkoff relates to this news today, what it actually takes to run for and become president, the need for that person to part of the national conversation, why Barack Obama was the gold standard, Gretchen Whitmer's shaky COVID history, Trump's interest in helping select both the GOP and Dem nominee, and more. Then California Governor Gavin Newsom joins to discuss why he’s not a “crazy liberal,” talks bucking his own party when he thinks Democrats go too far, and his thoughts on young men increasingly leaning conservative. Plus, is a run in 2028 Next Up for the California Governor? Then Jessica Reed Kraus and Jessica Millan Patterson join to discuss the successes of HHS Secretary RFK Jr. so far, the overall rise of MAHA as a common sense bipartisan movement, which Trump admin official they'd like to have dinner with, advice to the admin about Signal and other issues, and more.