ethical hacking penetration testing when i was doing the social engineering stuff i worked with a lot of pen testers. I wouldn't recommend black hat or gray hat to anyone you know if you're going to do this do it the right way there's more money in legitimate business period. Even the italian mafia now just owns legitimate businesses for the most part even if they muscle some contract here and they're on sanitation according to some people. There's still more money just owning a building in manhattan than trying to extort immigrants or whateverRight so i guess for me it wasn't really a turning point type decision it was more of a you know once  I stopped being an idiot kid and i

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