Heather Mack: Being able to speak the same language somehow and ideally be in the same room for lots and lots of time upfront is so key. Henry Miller: Designers should only really prototype and draw the things that I can actually realistically explain to someone who can build them. He says it's a pretty compelling sell for people looking for an opportunity to really shape a product experience. Grey Matter airs on weekdays at 9am ET/PT, 10am GMT or 1pm CET. For more information visit greylock.com/.

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