Do both: relationships and career growth

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After going from low six figures to number one bestseller in 18 months — and dealing with the whiplash of overnight success — Mark Manson proves that learning to say no is a skill you have to relearn at every level.

You’ll hear why he quit drinking and immediately got stronger, why being a single podcaster giving relationship advice creates a dangerous vacuum for young men, and what happens when you realise your music dreams have to die so your actual talent can thrive.

Tune in for his take on why marriage is the most contrarian position for male influencers today, how his wife accelerated his career more than any business deal, and why hoping your future self cringes at you means you're actually growing.

00:00 Introduction
02:00 Reflecting on the lasting success of The Subtle Art
04:13 Misinterpretations of the book's meaning and message
08:52 Learning to say no as success scales up
12:22 Turning 30s into legacy-building vs the experimentation of your 20s
15:52 Shifting mindset around dating, time and future family
23:48 The brutal reality of the music industry and staying relevant
26:10 Creating from passion vs chasing algorithmic performance
30:33 Applying the Hollywood idea of “one for them, one for you”
35:23 Why Gen Z men and middle-aged women dominate the space
39:25 Encouraging younger guys not to skip being stupid sometimes
42:07 Could he have written the book without partying and mistakes?
45:27 How cutting alcohol levelled up his health, work and mindset
54:31 Friendship takes real effort now, and culture has shifted
56:09 Navigating friendship and relationship balance as you get older
01:00:18 Knowing he found the one and rewiring his views on commitment
01:08:39 Championing marriage as a contrarian but essential life upgrade
01:12:23 Why legacy now means being honest, useful, and long-term impactful

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