Steve's Reputation Causes People to Take Away the Worst Lessons

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i think the steve's reputation and his success causes people to draw the wrong conclusionto take away the wrong lessons. He had this focus on doing great workandd making customers that's really what he cared about. Ora, i just had a, a, thetea reason to go back and look at the antenagate. Andi was, it's really interesting. This is onyou twob. You can goand look at it. Ah, you know, in the sort of ultimate downside case, there sort os just too much worship, hero worship, of sos like Apple CEO Steve Jobs.

In this wide-ranging conversation from April 2019, a16z’s Frank Chen sits down with Ken Kocienda, a longtime software engineer and designer at Apple from 2001 to 2017, who wrote a book about his career there, called Creative Selection.

They discuss Ken’s unconventional path from freelance photographer to software engineer at Apple, his work on many core products from Safari web browser to iPhone, iPad, and Apple Watch and features like Autocorrect, what it was like to demo new products for Steve Jobs, and more.