Even when you know, it's temporary, like it's, it's just crap. Even a cold that just sort of lays you out a couple of days. You're like, man, you, you really appreciate how good it feels just not to have an ailment. Yeah. And

you're reminded how fragile it is too

yeah it's fragile and um and it's also recent as well that's the thing if we just go back 100 years that's 1925 that's one person ago 1925 and you think of think of everything that's happened between 1925 and 2025 crazy like two world like wars inventions like depression it's gosh like a lot a lot has happened and so yeah I um you know I think maybe one other thing as well is and yeah I think one other thing is I view I view life kind of like an adventure. Like I, I genuinely, um, and I've done this before I've been doing this since before I achieved sort of any success or, you know, any real success or anything. It's just like, it's, it's an adventure. You've got X number of decades to just kind of, you know, for the first 20 years of your life, at least 15, but I'd say for around 20-ish years for most people, you're kind of on a track. You don't choose that much up until you're an adult. You don't get to choose that much. You certainly didn't choose like where you live as a child. You probably didn't choose what school you went to. You probably didn't choose what you studied. Maybe you didn't even choose what books you read. When you're young enough, you don't even choose what clothes you're going to wear. Like you don't get to choose that much. And then once you're like 16, 18, 20 plus, um, now it's like, Hey, it's on you right now. What, what are you going to do for a living? Where are you, where are you going to work? Who are you going to befriend? Who are you going to love? Where are you going to spend time? You're going to stay close to your family or are you going to, you know, move away from them? Are you going to create a family or are you not going like to me, that's exciting. It's just like, Hey, you can, you can kind of choose. And this is one of the big parts of Liberty and freedom and living in a society where you're not kind of being smashed on by some administration. It's I think that's amazing i i think it's so cool that we have entrepreneurs and we have businesses and we have music and podcasts and all these youtube like people are just making stuff yeah and you can you can do it it doesn't take any um like if someone wants to start a podcast, like assuming you already have a phone, most people have a smartphone. You could literally start a podcast or a YouTube channel or whatever it is. You could just start with your phone, which already has an HD camera, HD video camera, internet access and so on. And again, this is new. Even 20 years ago, we didn't have this. Right. So I fully understand why we live in this age of it's kind of like an oxymoron because a lot of the old school and traditional opportunities are becoming less stable and perhaps less available to as many people. At the same time, there's this whole brave new world that's opened up and is opening, where if you attune your brain and you see the opportunities properly, it becomes obvious that you have... So a 20-year now compared 20 year old, you know, 20 or 50 years ago, it's weird from one angle. They have, it looks like they have fewer opportunities. If you're in that traditionalist mindset and you're thinking of the way you are. Corporate

ladder.

Yeah. You're thinking of the way your dad, your granddad, your great granddad. You're kind of thinking of the way they did their life. Like some of those opportunities, some of those options are more difficult. Yeah. Um, in particular, I think for example, like probably finding love, getting married, having children and being able to raise them, maybe being able to raise a family off a single income, being able to buy a house for a reasonable price, certain things, those have probably objectively gotten harder. Yeah. Um, then other things, you know, like in terms of being able to, in terms of the tech.

Yeah.

Smartphones, social media, Bitcoin, like. Travel. Travel. Yeah, travel. You know, going from the UK to the USA, how long did that used to take? Right. Now you can go from London to Miami for a few hundred dollars. Yeah. And it takes nine hours. Yeah. And you can watch movies on the way, And it's safe and it's clean. You don't have to get on some ship. Rats and wrists getting scared. Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, I just think for anyone who's kind of feeling disheartened, I always just encourage people, like young men in particular to refine that spirit of adventure. Yeah. I think there's a lot of guys who are sucked into the black pill, doom and gloom and just everything sucks and everything is dark. And they're kind of just sitting there like doom scrolling and watching stuff that's going to validate their negative feelings. Whereas actually if they kind of looked up and were just like, actually, you know what? Like I can do a lot. Yeah. I can do a lot um you know i can get myself in shape i can learn a skill like it's never been easier to learn new skills right access information yeah you don't even need to go to and spend a bunch of money like whatever you want to learn whether it's coding how to play guitar how to speak spanish whatever the heck you want to learn there are free or very cheap resources that everyone now has access to you just have to do it yeah you you have to take that step and be like you know instead of look the average person now spends about six hours per day looking at a screen right

um that's a big trade-off with me i mean you don't have to do that obviously

no but if you're going to do that why not spend some of it useful why not make some of that useful why not learn something yeah why not create something instead of just being a consumer why don't you try producing something um i've heard yeah sorry

to interrupt i've heard this phrase just to tie into your point on adventure that uh how does it go it's not an adventure until something goes wrong so like you have to i mean this is what our ancestors have been doing for us up until this point right as they've been embracing the suck, right? Like, oh, I do have to get on this rickety wooden boat for three months and hope that I get from London to the new world and hope that I don't die of scurvy or whatever the thing is. Like they just embraced the risk. They embrace the adventure ultimately. And in doing so, they chart new territory for us, you know, literal territory, and then also technological territory, figuring out new things, figuring out medicines, you know, all these techniques and technologies that we then inherit. And so I think what you're saying is like, yeah, we also need to do that. We can't just sit here and be like, oh, this is great. Thanks for, let me just like doom scroll on social media all day and not do anything it's like we need to now embrace the pain you know the things that are wrong in the world and take responsibility for them for our future generations and

and i think um it doesn't even have to be you can also like you know like in um like in video games and some of them anyway you know you like you can choose your difficulty level yeah easy medium hard ultra hard whatever you can kind of do that on the fly in life as well like you can choose not everything is needs to be like a slog and you're playing on the most brutal difficulty and so you can take that challenge if you want yeah but there's some there's some flexibility with it. And I think it's really important to enjoy the process. I think sometimes when people talk about like taking on responsibility and doing this and it's, it all sounds like a, you know, like a task and it sounds daunting and, you know, and, and sometimes, sometimes it is, and it should be because that's what makes you stronger and it's how you achieve things. I think we sort of downplay the fun aspect of it yeah like dude i spent more than 10 years where my primary source of revenue was selling my cds on the street and then eventually in shopping malls so from when did i go full-time with my music late 2011 So I was selling my CDs on the street from 2006. I started in 2006 selling my CDs on the street. And then I became a full-time musician in 2011. And then up until early 2019, like I told you, when I made that deadlift tweet, I was at my pop-up shop. I was in a shopping mall promoting my wares to the general public. Over the course of time, I have spoken in person to over half a million people. Wow. So I sold over 30,000 albums hand to hand, 30,000 transactions, hand to hand, backpack or shop front to people. Do you know how many people you have to talk to to do that? And I loved it. Yeah. I loved it. I didn't have to do that. I've got a computer science degree. I used to work for, you know, big consulting firm. I didn't, you know, like I, I voluntarily went on this adventure and honestly, like sometimes, sometimes I miss going out in the street and just selling my, talking to strangers and selling my CDs because it was, it was a slog sometimes, but it was, it was fun. Like I just got to travel the country. I've been to over 60 different towns and cities just in the UK. I've been across the entire, you know, like you look at the map and I could be like, yep. Like I could put pins. Like I've been just everywhere, just talking to people, just getting in my big purple van and driving there, staying in crappy hotels and like eating cheap food. Cause I didn't want to eat too much into my income and just talking to strangers and dude like i'm so glad i did that it was like i'm choosing voluntarily to go on this adventure i have up days i have down days um i used to organize my own tours sometimes you do a show and it feels great like yeah cool loads of people come sometimes you get to the show and you know there's eight people there and you know do perform a one hour set for eight people yeah you know the room's just empty yeah and dude i'm so glad i went through all that this is where some of the gratitude even comes from because there's a lot of people who you know 90 99 of people who now know me discovered me in the last six years but there's like a whole decade plus story prior to that so part of the reason why i'm enjoying where i'm at now so much more and where i'm going to go is because i know some people think it was just handed to me or i just just popped up and got on rogan or popped up and interviewed elon or whatever it's like no no no no um you guys missed you missed all the stuff prior to that And I remember those days. I remember just, you know, standing out there. England does not have good weather, by the way, man, like standing out there on the street, like in the snow, in the rain, just talking to strangers, like passing out flyers, selling those CDs, putting my headphones on people. And I love the fact as well that there's thousands of people on the internet who like bought my cds while i was doing that so they're like yeah yeah he did that like i met him in like the people i see comments on myself people like man i remember meeting this guy in 2010 when he was like selling he you know i bought one of his cds on the street or whatever it's so cool to see what he's doing now um but i think without that grind i number one i don't think i'd be where i am now let alone where i'm going to go um but i wouldn't appreciate it in the same way and i wouldn't have i think there would be a danger of pride as well um yeah when you eat dirt for a long time yeah and then you finally get some like success or appreciation you don't it doesn't go to your head. Right. It's not like, cause you're grounded for eating so much dirt. Yeah, exactly. Like I've had hundreds of thousands of people just like reject me to my face. Now when people talk about grinding, they're talking about sending a lot of emails or, you know, adding people on social media or whatever. I was like, no, like in person, just being out there all the time. And that, and that's my personal story. There's people who have been through things that are, you know, like way more, uh, you know, some people have been through all really hell on earth. Um, and so for me, it wasn't that, but my point was just the, just the adventure. I think everyone has to, sometimes life just throws an adventure at you and you don't have a, you

don't

have a choice, right?