I don't actually think that, like, small is worse than big. There's nothing inherent about small businesses that makes them better. The real issue is that joel sallaton is selling people this vision of if the regulators would get out of the way, all these small farms would flourish. And he also uses free labor on his farm. Michael pallin talks about his interns. What becaus he has interns like doing chores. Ok, that's just, sounds like free labor to me.