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Even Better: Don't call it a budget
The Gray Area with Sean Illing
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Paco de lion talks about how to get started getting hold of your finances from zero. The financial system is still rooted in racism and classism, she says. Paco's advice looks objectively at that and also speaks to the emotional roots of our own habits around money.
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