The Winter Soldier

The biggest point in Bucky's favor is obviously that connection to the hero, the connection to and history with Captain America. Joe Russo gave a quote in an interview back in 2014 a Washington Post interview that I've always loved not only for unlocking something about this movie and this dynamic,. But more broadly in terms of these through lines, what makes for a really rich and impactful villain. And so that keeps him firmly slotted here instead of being higher up the list.