Ep. 525 — Amb. Michael McFaul
The Axe Files with David Axelrod
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Vladimir Karam-Murtz and Vladimir Nemsov
David Rothkopf: I was with you and the president when you introduced us to people who are fighting to build civil society in Russia. Some of them no longer with us. Murdered at the hands of Putin. Yes. And Alexei Navalny, who I did not meet in prison, that civil society that you talked about that you were helping to promote is very, very much under threat. He says had it happened two years later, Nemsov would have become president. No way would they be invading Ukraine today.
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