I think what has happened in the last few years is that people have started becoming empowering themselves again. I'm particularly aware of this in America, because I have quite a lot of American friends who, for years and years, would have absolutely nothing to do with politics. So suddenly they're thinking, oh, pulling out of politics wasn't such a smart move. It just left the ground to people like Trump. So same thing over here, I think. Suddenly we're all engaged in a way again. You don't have to come from a political background. What you have to want to do is to take hold of what power you can get hold of and do something with it.

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