The Problem With Programming a Paperan and Dawgian Concept

Patrick Poll: I feel that I don't really understand a papieran and dawgian enough in the following sense that I cannot understand many concepts of their work. So there are some small ideas I'm trying to think about. Once it is, once they are very precise and mathematical, then you know exactly how to make it as a program, computer program. And so I want to do that kind of thing.