i love how you're somehow blaming philosophers for this. You're the ones that tell us these effects are true. So we'll see when your o, when your book comes out on honor, we'll see if you make the mistake of actually citing one of the studies in these hundred that didn't get reughly. Fortunately, nobody's doing at well, not unfortunately. I guess nobody's doing any studies on honor or ese for it's very rare. It's shockingly hard to find studies on honor and honor based values and attitudes and all that. i'm going to have to do it, you know, old school, just by appealing to just go to honor cultures and insult

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