i've been meditating for over 20 years, and i know my routine. But when i had the afternoon coffee and then we went back in for the last meditation of the day, it took me a little longer to settle into im ahut. After the d m t experience in osten recently, which would have been about two and a half weeks ago, you're a new d m t m er. I don't remember what he called this, but ly, the different states you can be when you are not fully, you know, in your mind, personality, ego, et cetera. So there's that first level, which i refer to as the void, because

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