Getting that first or second project under your belt, it's really important. I feel like Kaggle is part of that. As a student, I have the pay really didn't matter. It was a lot as a student, but my biggest promotion in life was going from that basic food menu to looking up in that menu as I started making money. That was exciting. And look, I have a book I'm spending half my time just learning how to do this. I mean, they basically paid me to learn this stuff. It's amazing. So yeah, I really, really had the same feeling when I was getting started. Right. All right. Maybe we could talk about