I cannot even imagine the exhaustion and you can never be at your best when you've only slept a little bit. To basically have to push off having another kid because you're just not sure if you're going to survive it. When you're sleeping prior, yeah, survival is really the skier. It's like am I going to make it through the day? Like is there any chance? Yeah. And neither one of our kids slept particularly well after they were born,. Not for three years, but certainly not for several months.

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