Trump pattern: public humiliation of allies

Investigative journalist and editor of The Insider Michael Weiss tells Times Radio's Fergus Macphee how this week he was part of the Der Spiegel team which published call notes from European leaders that suggested they did not want Volodymyr Zelensky left alone with Steve Witkoff & Jared Kushner. The notes also suggest concern the US would 'betray' Ukraine over territory. 

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