The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill

Mark Driscoll was on a podcast with Carrie Newhoff in 2020 wasn't it and one of Carrie's top podcasts of the year. The key people do it to build their own platform they're using Mark and Mark is glad to do that because it helps him build his story but I said like and I send him all the information not all the information I produced but I gave him a synopsis so I had no idea that he was under church discipline and formal charges  and that's the thing that continues to happen and will continue to happen.