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200. Philip Zimbardo on the Nature & Nurture of Good & Evil

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Is There a Higher Order?

You do ultimately hold people accountable, morally, culpable for their actions? Ah, including letssay deri choven or or a, you know, the people involved in abu grabe, or whatever. So how do how do you square those two? Yes, i think en the situation helps explain why good people do bad things. It doesn't excuse those people from being responsible and guilty for the bad things. But so again, i guess we always have to say, there's a higher order, not not a god given order, not heaven, but there is a moral. There is a moral, a level of morality, a within should be within every every nation,

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