If future entities are electronic it's not clear they will be expansionist. We have evolved by Darwin's intellectual which favours intelligence but also favours aggression. So if the intelligences are electronic then they may be entirely counterproductive, they may not want to expand and so they could be out there without manifesting their presence in an echos because we can't come here. The flip side of that though is I've wondered about this out loud. Is it possible that we do sort of gradually or suddenly upload our consciousness into electronics and then exactly because we don't have all these sort of thermodynamics survival instincts anymore? We stop caring. And forget about expanding. Just existing is less interesting

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