This is the Jocko underground podcast number 81 Echo Charles sitting across me so about every month or so something like that I get it someone a dash long front. So anyways you have this bad relationship here between Jim and Fred Bad communication, you know things were breaking down. This applies to children as what it applies to your kids When your kids are doing something that they shouldn't be doing or When they're behaving in a way that they shouldn’t be behaving You have to actually listen to why they're doingyou have to ask them a question and listen Look Is that apply to a five-year-old? Sometimes look sometimes five-year old do dumb things that you need stop