Whats yor an delovem we are we av retorted, we keep saying that we want to record some of the casual conversation we have before we, like, get in the right frame of mind deact do the podcast. But aell, we had a good conversation going about about news letters and some of the production value of news letters. So

well, weas so isting rocking. The reason i was laughing right as we started the recording is because we were, we were just talking about, what are we gong to talk about to day? And i said, well, and i don't know if we want to record. And as soon as i said, record, just hit the buttonh ha, ha. So here we are. Welcome everybody.

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as as to mention, we got a lot of stuff going on, but one of the big things that we want to do to day is talk about growth, and maybe growth in a couple of different fields. So people who know me know that one of my specific focuses is news letter growth. I'm getting ready to do a whole bunch of case studies on different media companies and how they've grown. And one aspect of that is s o. And i'm not really an s o guy. So what i was hoping to do in this show, obviously, tim is i want to sit down and kind of interview tim and figure out how he analyzes the co of potential competitors, or, like other people that he kind of finds across the internet, and use that to reverse engineer, you know, the process that i'll eventually use for these case studies.