I think we're going to see massive population decline through climate events and then bio-serfdom essentially. I think my gut is just like, we would go the other way in terms of that the powerful class would manufacture slightly stupider people in order to get away with making the kind of decisions that they want or not facing public discourse about it. See, I personally think that that's, we're heading more towards a hugely unequal and stratified society. Yeah. Well, what system science does teach us is we need to consider all of these scenarios. What our model should do is generate a number of scenarios and then we kind of, because that allows us to anticipate various changes
George Mobus is Professor Emeritus at University of Washington, Tacoma. His broad academic background saw him conduct research on artificial intelligence, cybernetics and systems science.
George joins me to discuss how systems science is failing to grasp the polycrisis—that the field has been split into silos, leaving most systems scientists without the tools to model the complexity of the emergency we face.
He also explains the neurological limits of individual human wisdom, suggesting the agricultural revolution affected our capacity for abstract thinking, before revealing how humans can work past those limits—collectively.
Planet: Critical investigates why the world is in crisis—and what to do about it.
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