It took about 12 or 13 seconds just to clear the 400 feet of the launch tower and going up in it. But that thing kept on going very slow off the pad. It's using up 30,000 pounds of propellant per second. Ingesting into those five engines. That was the first moon mission. And then we went on from there. There were other development missions with the three stage massive Saturn V. Then eventually, what I want to get to is the most exhilarating moment of my entire career after that low point of the fire in 67. Here it's July of 69, July 16th. About 9, 32 in the morning or something like that. And we

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