I think most people hate their products as an employee in a corporate because it's all about finding documents that you don't find or you get chased by the record management department to do the version updates. I just think there are other better companies to invest than open text at this point for us. And on top of that, I find their products not exciting enough to own a piece of their business. That's maybe also a good one. But if you think about it, like why is Apple so good? It comes down to its ecosystem. How many people do you know has an iPhone and other Apple products? Right.

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