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Isaac Cedits and John Helmer
John Tefonow talks to Nigel em isaac on the learning hack podcast. Nigel says he's always been up for a debate, and has never tried to live in a bubble where everyone agrees with him. He advises people to get out of their comfort zone by being curious about what they're doing - even if it doesn't agree with them. The episode also includes an interview with Andy woller from Aria nine who shares his views on personalized learning.