I think we have to temper ourselves a little bit and maybe not go whole hug into every new idea. But I do think that being willing to consider a whole lot of options and possibilities just to see, you know, just to try something new. And so if Scott is saying this tactile experience of making is something that he's finding, really gratifying, it might be there needs to be some dimension of making opportunity in whatever he chooses going forward. It can show up in experiential ways. There's so many different ways that kind of brings brings up something else that that Scott shared actually just before he sort of like shared the, You know, like what other folks have been telling

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