The Importance of Family Policy in Hungary

I actually don't think that there's just like a magic trick on the birth rate and I have personally not made that the centerpiece of my arguments. The important thing is to have a kind of whole of society approach to, to family policy to making a family friendly society. America is in a different position because we already have a welfare system that is in and attack system which in many ways are positively anti family. We're further down the decision decision chain or something like that. And we have, you know, sunk costs and things that have already been decided long ago,. still changing the mentality and the mentality among policymakers has been my, my primary goal.