Learning From Failure Is the Thing

I would say that that investor thing is real. Investors do put some weird social contract where you feel like you have to go put together a plan that works on a deck and that kind of stuff. What I tell founders when they're thinking about it, what founders have to start up is not working. Unless you have something pivot in one of those two categories that I just mentioned, shut the company down, return the remaining capital to investors, go travel the world and wait until you have an organic new idea you want to work on.