There's a big push around bioenergy with carbon capture and storage. But we've got to be careful not to sort of re. Reinvent the challenges that the first generation of biofuels created. Landscapes are all complex systems, they're complex social systems and they complex biological systems. How do we optimize how do we make the best choices across a landscape? And then start linking that up to optimize for the whole.

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