The Importance of Accountability in DevRel

PJ Haggard: Hopefully, hopefully this is a short term thing. And also you realize that we usually don't have this discussion in terms of value or, or bringing in money when we talk about upper level or mid level management. So I think that that that bodes well for people in DevRel, for DevRel is an industry. One thing that hasn't changed is that we're all together. We're all in this together, employed, unemployed on socials, on podcasts. We find a way to help each other out.