Intro

Nir Eyal is the bestselling author of Hooked and Indistractable. He joins Big Technology Podcast for a spirited debate over whether we're actually addicted to our phones, the ethics of app developers who use tricks to keep us coming back, and what to do about it.

You can find Nir's books here:

 http://geni.us/Indistractable and http://geni.us/hooked

Here's an Indistractable summary article: https://www.nirandfar.com/skill-of-the-future/

And a distraction guide: https://www.nirandfar.com/distractions/

And a schedule maker tool: https://nirandfar.com/schedule-maker/

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