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The Problem With Rhetoric in Public Debate
I appreciate the fact that these two people are intelligent they are making substantive points it's a cut above the kind of public discourse we seeing on YouTube and stuff these days. But at the same time was just frustrating because they were kind of talking past each other right with oh it's still a performative to be it like and they're good at it I enjoyed aspects of the debate but I also find it like frustrating to listen to it various points.