I think we're just in, even though the companies are a pretty big, profitable company, I think we're still in like very early innings of the district. The good news in that is he spends so much time on product. That we just think there's lots of other things that we can do with the company. We came as part of the recap when they kind of effectively took it public using a SPAC. It reminds me of common that way about Alex and Michael, who are just such product driven founders.

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