A year and a half before the python 2 officially end of life end of life oh yeah what was that. Did you shed a single tear while looking out over the horizon i'm not not a very poetic person and i don't shed tears like that but no we actually had planned a party for the python the u.s. python conference that year which would never happened of course because of the pandemic. If we're going to have a python 4 we's going to have to have both a different reason for for having that and a different process for managing the transition can you imagine a possible process that could be used?

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