Debate on Casualty Numbers in Gaza

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A contentious discussion unfolds on the Israel-Palestine conflict, specifically focusing on casualty figures in Gaza. One side argues for the targeted approach of Israel towards Hamas, while another scrutinizes the high civilian death toll. Historical comparisons of war casualties are drawn into the debate, revealing stark perspectives on the ethical and factual aspects of casualty numbers.

Norman Finkelstein and Benny Morris are historians. Mouin Rabbani is a Middle East analyst. Steven Bonnell (aka Destiny) is a political livestreamer. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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OUTLINE:
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(00:00) – Introduction
(12:11) – 1948
(1:10:43) – Partition
(2:15:16) – October 7
(3:09:27) – Gaza
(3:36:02) – Peace
(4:40:47) – Hope for the future