Navigating Nuance in a Complex World

Helen Lewis (The Atlantic columnist, BBC podcaster, pop culture decoder) has become a darling of the heterodox podcasting community (and this podcast; catch my previous Wild chat with her about THAT GQ interview with Jordan Peterson here), and, relatedly, a pet target of the extreme Right and Left’s ongoing cancelling zeal.

In this interview, I invite Helen to talk through several very online eruptions that are crucial for fathoming what the hell is going on in the world today. We cover the feminist-trans wars playing out on “TERF Island”; why Kara Swisher has fallen out with Elon Musk and why the Left failed the October 7 “Hamas test”. Mostly this is a conversation about the role of discerning dialogue when the extreme Left and Right are dominating the online arena.

SHOW NOTES

• Listen to my previous Wild chat with Helen 
• Here’s the episode I did with Hannah Barnes about the trans debate in the UK
• Check out Helen’s brilliant The Bluestocking Substack
• Get hold of her most recent book, the bestseller bestseller Difficult Women, A History of Feminism in 11 Fights
• Check out her Blocked and Reported episode here
• We reference a few of Helen’s recent The Atlantic columns: The Progressives Who Flunked the Hamas Test; Is Kara Swisher Tearing Down Tech Billionaires? and Why I’ll Keep Saying “Pregnant Women” 

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