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Episode Twenty-Six: Debbie Zappia

Training Without Conflict Podcast

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The Importance of Tests for Dogs

Ivan: We really are trying to make our entire protection routine much more of a test for the dog than has been or is the direction that it's going right now. So like in protection, again, like thinking of ring sports, you can have a dog that doesn't like totally fails. Attack exercise, but stays in the program and even can win the championship. I'm assuming in your case, if the dog is backed off or something, it's the killed or how does that go? Yeah, you're you're game over. Okay. Debbie, I know you've got to go. It was a very good conversation and I'm glad to be able to talk to you

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