The IRA and the Debt Ceiling Debate

Eric Liu: I'm just curious because this is like a great first start. And but it's not something that's like settled in a way when you think about the debt ceiling debate right now. It seems like, are we at a point where Republicans convinced their constituents to vote against their best interests? Eric Liu: We could have done more with the IRA. The size of the challenge is enormous. You know, we think more public investment is useful. But with EVs specifically, the credit forEVs will roll out over the next few years and change the consumer market for vehicles.